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Will Ban on Assult [sic] Rifles Be Renewed
Aired May 19, 2003 - 19:44 ET
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BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: The White House recently
restated President Bush's support for renewing a ban on certain
semiautomatic weapons. That ban has been in place since 1994 but is set
to expire next year unless Congress renews it. Recent signals shown the
Republican leadership might not bring the renewal up for consideration
and will let that ban expire having rekindled that debate. On this
program on Thursday of last week, we aired a live demonstration. CNN set
up with law enforcement officials of a banned semiautomatic rifle and
its legal counterpart. We reviewed the demonstration and one on one
We decided a more detailed report would better explain this complex
issue and tonight we have that report in Miami tonight. Here is John
JOHN ZARRELLA, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This is a semiautomatic
firearm. It instantly self loads and fires one bullet for each trigger
pull. The 1994 crime control act says, "It is unlawful for a person
to manufacture, transfer, or posses a semiautomatic assault
weapon." The law defines a semiautomatic assault weapon by name and
description, listing 19 specific firearms by name that are illegal. The
law also bans certain rifles, pistols and shotguns by description, as
well as large capacity ammunition magazines that hold more than ten
rounds. The law is very specific. For a semiautomatic rifle to be
banned, it must be able to use a detachable magazine and have at least
two of the following features. A flash suppressor, a bayonet mount, a
pistol grip, a folding or telescoping stock, or a grenade launcher.
Gary Noe, a retired police officer and assistant chief in Oakland Park,
GARY NOE, RET. ASST. POLICE CHIEF: Let's examine the banned weapon.
ZARRELLA: Explained the difference between a banned AR-15 and its legal
NOE: Flash suppressor, bayonet lug, high capacity magazine over ten
rounds, pistol grip, and a telescoping rear stock.
ZARRELLA (on camera): And the legal weapon doesn't have those features,
correct? NOE: Doesn't have any of those features. Does not have a flash
suppressor, does not have a bayonet lug, has a legal ten round magazine,
it does have the pistol grip, but it has no other features so it makes
it a legal firearm, and it has a solid rear stock.
ZARRELLA (voice-over): Pro-ban advocates say each of these features
would make the weapons more deadly. But anti-ban supporters say those
features are only cosmetic. And don't contribute to an increase in
crime. With only one of the listed features, the gun is legal. And
without those features, experts say the guns are identical.
NOE: It is exactly the same gun.
ZARRELLA (on camera): The same firepower.
NOE: Same firepower, same bullet have to squeeze the trigger once to
make a bullet go down the barrel.
ZARRELLA (voice-over): In fact, if you fire the same caliber and type
bullets from the two guns, you get the same impact. Here is a .223
caliber bullet fired from a banned AR-15 rifle. Now, the legal version
of that rifle. The smaller hole made by the second gun has nothing to do
with the gun or ammunition. The shooter just hit the second target more
times than in the same place. Both sides cite a Justice Department study
about the impact of the law as proof of their argument. Those who oppose
the ban say the study shows the ban has had no impact on the reduction
of crime. And that the answer is to enforce the laws already on the
WAYNE LAPIERRE, EXEC. VICE PRESIDENT NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION: What
stops crime is every time a violent felon touches a gun, a violent drug
dealer, a violent criminal, use the existing federal law, prosecute him
100 percent, confront the criminal directly and take him off the street
and put him in jail.
ZARRELLA: Supporters of the ban instead say the study shows a decline in
the am of crime committed with these weapons.
REP. CAROLYN MCCARTHY (D), NEW YORK: I'm sure the American people do not
want to go back to the day on allowing AK-47s back on the streets or
even the newer models, the Bush Master, that were used in the D.C.
sniping killings last year.
ZARRELLA: Gun control advocates are working with some members of
Congress on not only extending the assault weapon ban in 2004, but
introducing new legislation to vastly expand the number of weapons
banned. Gun advocates and their supporters in Congress argue this and
any future bans are an unconstitutional violation of the second
amendment right to bear arms.
John Zarrella, CNN, Miami.
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