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"Are you SURE that's a CCW permit? Looks like a Apple Market shopper card to me!"
Sheriff issues first gun permits
By STEPHEN FOUTES
News Tribune


 

Eight of 12 Cole County residents who already cleared background checks have received their permits to carry concealed weapons, Sheriff John Hemeyer said Friday.

Hemeyer began issuing the permits at noon Thursday, one day after Missouri Attorney General Jay Nixon sent out a letter telling sheriffs the original litigation surrounding the conceal and carry statute is over.

As such, Nixon's letter said, "further delays in the implementation of the concealed weapons legislation cannot be justified."

Hemeyer noted the arrival of Nixon's letter coincided with the arrival of 12 fingerprint checks that were cleared by the Missouri Highway Patrol and the FBI.

"I can tell you that every person that has received a permit from me has qualified on all aspects of the state law," Hemeyer said.

Background checks on 62 other Cole County applicants have yet to be returned, Hemeyer noted.

While Missourians over age 23 may carry concealed weapons in their vehicles without a permit, a person's ability to carry a concealed weapon ushers in a "new era" of law enforcement, Hemeyer said.

And that new era could mean new problems for law enforcers.

One such problem deals with traffic stops. Local law enforcement officials said they'll ask motorists stopped for traffic violations if they have a gun in the vehicle almost immediately after contact is made.

"That's going to be the first question," Missouri Highway Patrol Lt. Tim Hull said.

While many citizens might be upset by such a question, they shouldn't be, Hemeyer said.

"They should understand it's a legitimate concern," he added. "I want my deputies to get home safe at the end of the shift and, therefore, I don't think it's an unreasonable question to ask."

Jefferson City Police Capt. Ray Bledsoe agreed, saying officer safety is a top priority.

"Just because they've got a permit to carry a gun doesn't mean we feel safe with them or that they are a person that's rational," Bledsoe said.

"We have 'normal' people that do bad things."

But Hemeyer said simply asking people if they have a gun in their vehicle could violate their rights.

"If someone says, 'Yes I do,' and that pistol is illegal, have we violated someone's rights by not informing them of (Miranda) before asking the question?" Hemeyer asked.

"All this is case law that will be made in the future from car stops."

Hull said drivers stopped by law enforcement need to sit still, with their hands on the steering wheel, until the officer approaches them and instructs them to present their license or registration.

It's important for drivers to not reach toward their glovebox, center console or under their seat before an officer approaches, he said..

"(That officer) doesn't know who you are and will have to react to what he thinks is going on," Hull said.

Another potential problem deals with Missourians with concealed weapons permits from other states. Those permits must be honored here, Hemeyer said.

But many officials don't know what those permits look like and they might be easily forged or copied, he said.

And while checking on permits issued in Missouri shouldn't be a problem, checking those from out-of-state is "going to be a whole different process," Hemeyer said.

"And we don't have all the bugs worked out on that."

In many instances, those checks might require phone calls or teletype messages. The question then is, "How long can I hold someone to indeed find if this permit is valid?" Hemeyer asked.

"The reciprocity clause opens up another area that Missouri law enforcement is going to have to look at and research very quickly."

While traffic stops and rights violations are of great concern to law enforcers, Bledose said he also has some fears about citizens carrying weapons on the streets.

Specifically, he's concerned that a citizen with a permit to carry a concealed weapon might become "overzealous" if he/she encounters a crime.

If a police officer doesn't realize the citizen is trying to be helpful, that citizen could end up getting shot, Bledsoe said.

"As a police officer, you've got one to three seconds to make that decision to shoot or don't shoot," Bledsoe said.

"I'm concerned that just because they are carrying a gun, they might interfere with apprehension or a critical incident that's going to cause a by-stander to get killed."


 

 


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